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I walk and drive to TJ and I gotta say walking is faster. At 10 or 11 on a weeknight the wait will probably be 10 minutes at the most. I have run into longer waits but nothing like the car waits at that time. I also like the exercise to and from my car on the US side. I have certain ones I like for certain things. If I want pussy, I go for the young stuff...and right now Alondra is at the top of that list...cute, 20, great body, and since she now knows me, she doesn;t watch the clock and enjoys the sex. On the bbbj list its Lucy then Josoline and suppose to meet a new one today that is said to be very very good...so will see. Found this quote, and it just got me thinking: "... if you ever negotiate a deal with a chica and she tries to lead you to the hotel without holding your hand run like hell and find someone else before blowing your $60. If she walks two steps ahead of you it's like her way of acknowledging to the rest of the bar that it's all business and that you're not shit." Is there any validity to this statement? You are correct. But I think there are numerous tests you can give her to make sure she is the one to invest in. The true earner you are searching for! There are tests you can perform before you even get to that point of actually walking to the room! I use a finger bang test. If I buy a girl a drink I wait till she is 1/2 way finished and then I try to put my finger in her pussy. You don't have to actually shove it in...but you need to be able to play with it a little. If she does not let me I kick her to the curb. And I am off to the next girl. If she does not let you touch it after a drink....she will not be an earner in the room! I would say that selecting a puta based on body language is a very good indicator of performance upstaris.That is why i always buy them a drink first.If a puta gulps her drink and insists on going upstairs right away,not a good sign.If she is playing with her fucking phone while sitting with you,a definite no-go.If she is sitting with you and keeps looking around the bar,also a bad sign.If she sits with you and stares straight ahead with a blank look,not a good sign.If she won't allow you to touch her at the booth,another no-go.Although,body language is not the end-all in predicting performance upstairs, it has always been pretty reliable for me.I have had instances when the body language was good but the performance was shit,but those times were few and far between. The one good thing about the Hong Kong is you can pay $20 for 2 songs and take her into the VIP for a couple lap dances. Here you can get a nice test drive in. Kick the tires a little, feel the upholstery, roll down the windows, crank on the knobs a little, and see if that is the ride you want! A true Monger will know if he is making a great buy after 1 drink or 2 dances! At AB if you are a newbie and you don’t know the girls….you are always rolling the dice. You have no way to know if you are going to have a lemon or a Ferrari. There are 100's of tests you can give the girl before the hand holding walk to the room to ensure success! Use this first drink test:: Does she drink her drink slow? Will she kiss you? Can you touch her pussy? Will she show you her tits? Is her attention on you? Go down this check list. More than one No....RELOAD! The great thing about the finger bang test during the first drink is that this will tell you if she is an earner....Plus you can see if her pussy stinks! policia http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?showtopic=24360 Take a taxi from the border to your hotel. Shower and change, bring only the cash you need, a drivers licence and a photocopy of your passport. No meds, no cell phone, nothing else. Take a taxi to ZN. Conduct business. Take taxi from ZN to hotel. Sleep like a baby. Get up the next day, eat breakfast. Checkout, walk to Mexicoach station. Pay $5 to sit in comfortable bus and go to la linea. Now, lately, the pedestrian line is very very short and you will spend more time on the bus than the walking line. But consider it insurance. For $5 bucks you know you won't be making any unexpected donations to la policia. For the $40 you spend on a room and the $20 on taxis and bus fare, you save hundreds. I think it's worth it. I like my plan better. I leave my car on US side withe enough cash for parking. I leave Atm, card in car. ( I can cross back to US and get more cash if I need ) I leave everything of value in hotel in US I use money belt and hiding spots , I preplan how many chica i plan to do. ( ex: 1 shags =100.00 ) with just enough cash to have dry nuts and about 2 dollars when I hit the return Sentri line . I can smile big at the polica as i walk by, knowing I just beat them at the game. i also think its important to post up every search , and tell everybody about the police being robbers. I would jaw with the cabbies, they complain that not many tourist come . I tell the cabbie its because police rob at border. when chica complain about no customers , its because polica rob at border. we all need to do this, and soon little old grandma's will be beating the cops with their handbags because they are the cause of the economic downturn. But the bars were full. especially Las Chavelas/Miami, Hong Kong was good too, lots of new chicas, although the bar energy wasn't as good as Las Chavelas, and Tropical had plenty of customers and chicas. I love it that the US monger traffic is down. I know before I use to get pissed going in a place like LC, only to find a group of Asians took all the good looking chicas, and left the fat ones for the rest of us. Yesterday I saw maybe two Asians in LC? I hope it stays like this, TJ was less crowded, and I never felt safer, didn't see any corrupt cops, nor anybody getting mugged, althought I did see a lot of gang bangers on the walk towards La Tropa, but that didn't scare me......what scared me was this fat SG on Constitution just off the alley south side, was offering herself for $5 dollars! El Chino Loco Meets Miriam de Acapulco, PSE - Panocha Stench Experience Wednesday night, after doing a couple of loops around AB and not seeing anything that caught my interest, I made the rounds to CC, Tropical, LC, and back and forth down the alley. Then I entered HK from the alley. great reports: http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?showtopic=31226 http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?showtopic=31229 http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?showtopic=31187 http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?showtopic=30797 http://hongkong-nightclub.com/ Hong Kong is attached to Miami Club. It usually opens up at around 7pm, but doesn't get hop'n until 10ish. This is maily a strip-club. My Favorite in TJ. They put on some great show involving ice or whip-cream. I've taken a couple chicas to the room from this club, but only some will go up. Hotel used by this club is Casadas. $6 for half hour. Chino @ HK [Mesero] Cool cat. I have been friendly with him since I started in the zona 3 years ago. Always been good in helping me find the spinner chicas I like (Letty, Marilyn, Carla, etc..), and helping me avoid the ficha only chicas. For those not in the know, the name on his badge will something say Luiz. I always take care of him (tip). I though he deserved a mention here. Adelita Bar: [img]http://www.tjamigos.com/phpBB2/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=2[/img] Most chicas here range from $40 to $70 for a half hour. Normal ficha drinks cost $7. Watch out if the chica orders a Bud($9) or a Red Bull($11). Hotel Coahuila is the attached hotel. $11 for half an hour, or $35 all night. They do have Jacuzzi rooms now, but they change the price of them all the time. Chicago Club: Chicas range from $50 to $70. Last I heard ficha drinks here cost $6, can someone confirm this. Tropical: This place is known to have the most FOB chicas out of all Zona Norte clubs. Most chicas range from 18 to 22. Not all chicas go to the room, but must will. Watch out if the masero trys to push a bag of chips on you here. It will cost you $4. Hotel used here is Rizo de Oro. I can't remember how much the room cost for short-time, but they run at $29 for all night. Can someone let us know how much ficha drinks cost here? Las Chavelas: This is another bar that the more Spanish you know the better. Not all the girls here will go to the room, but most will. Hotel used by this club is Cascadas. $6 for half an hour. Could someone let us know how much ficha dricks cost here? Miami: Extremely hot women at Miami! It's always been comparable to Chicago club when I go there. That street you have to walk down to get to it is scary as hell though. Keep your eyes moving and walk in the street. What's the going rate for a hour with an AB/CC/HK/BT girl these days? I paid $100 in January, but I was wondering if that figure has deflated any in light of the "current unpleasantness." Which hotels do you use? Always HDS! I always use la mansion it is the best. I dont pay them if I see them outside of work most of the time. only dinner and maybe a movie and that is it. then back to the hotel for some good GFE sex. 200 all night is a good deal, good work Frankblack I stick with large farmacy chains (ROMA, Farmacia International,etc.) not the little mom and pop joints and always buy in package. Never had or heard of any problems. Newbie Guide http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?showtopic=1852 http://www.tijuanaonline.org/english/maps/tj_otay.htm AB/CC Chicas Vs. non-AB/CC Chicas http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?showtopic=536 Dictionary of TJ related terms, acronyms, & Spanish. http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?showtopic=129 video: http://current.com/items/76794892_street_girls_of_tijuana Which hotels do you use? Always HDS! I always use la mansion it is the best. I dont pay them if I see them outside of work most of the time. only dinner and maybe a movie and that is it. then back to the hotel for some good GFE sex. I'd say $80.00 to $100.00 is the going rate for a 1 hour session. Obviously factors such as the bar, chica, day of the week, time of day, etc. play a role in negotiating the price. Another option you might try is negotiate a 30 minute session. Then, like an after thought suggest the question for the cost of an hour. So when you're in the room and if you want more than just the 30 minutes (well less usually when the knock comes), have the girl ring up another 30 minutes. This way, you're not committed to the 1hr, but if you want it later, the price is already ironed out. Some girls might bitch about it (asking for 2x the 30 min rate), just feign ignorance and stick to your guns on the 1hr price. $100 is very fair for an hour. I can't imagine any chica at any club turning that down, except for some dumb ass chica's at HK. I like to pay $100 per hour with a completion bonus based on performance! However, I have an HK favorita that will give me 3 hours for $80 after her shift. On the other hand, I get an AB hottie for $80 for an hour. But most chica's will meet you before or after her shift at your room. The deal is $100 for an hour, but that NEVER happens. As it always turns into 2 or 3 hours week after week. In some cases it will turn into a TLN. A toasty warm room, no knocks, relaxation, a nice large clean room, a smell good bed, a little music and a fun time. What's not for them to like. Oddly enough, and much to my surprise, none of the chica's ever ask for a tip. Not that it matters, because I won't. If you give in and tip, you lose. Make them honor the deal. I am getting offers of $200 TLN the past month. Tj is slow and business is off. 200 all night is a good deal, good work Frankblack. Adelitas name is Fergie but her real name is Lorena she is from puebla: try $70 I always thought that $6 was the rate for SGs(15-20 minutes) and $12 was the rate for BGs(½hour). OK. Makes sense now. I've never been with a streetgirl. So do you get kicked out after 30 minutes with them if she hasn't done it already? My 30-minute sessions with the bargirls never last any less than 35-40 minutes, and I've never gotten an early knock at Cascadas even on the weekend nights. One time on a Friday night with a HK chica I didn't get a knock period and spent an hour to an hour and a half for the $12 and a $2 tip. The kimono brand was sooo fucken tight around the base.... Uhm, if the session has went well and I *want* a picture.... I simply ask... "Te puedo tomar una foto?" (Can I take a picture of you?) Rarely do they ever resist, and I can can usually bust that down in one of the following manners -Say "que tal con ropa?" (how about with clothes?) -Say "que tal solo la cara?" (how about just the face?) -Ask why--they will always tell you because they don't want their pictures on the internet. I say I don't use the internet--I can't even get the photos off of my phone (a lie) I have never been denied. Here is my secret..After the session I always tell them how great they were..Then I ask them "Is it ok if I give you a tip ?" First they look a little confused but then they always smile and shake their head yes. So then I get up and walk to my pants,grab my camera and then I say "Oh, is it ok if I take a couple photos ?" Since they know that a tip is in the bag they usually don't want to fuck that up, so I get another affirmative nod. Whenever a chica asks me why I want a foto I'll say something like "so that I can remember you and find you again / para que te pueda recordar y volver a buscarte". That they like to hear. You always gotta tell girls what they want to hear if you want to get what you want. This is universal to all women, even prostitutes. I have a Samsung phone through Verizon. Theres a system select menu on it that allows me to select between Home Only and Automatic. I set it to Home Only when I want to fly under the radar and it will not roam connect to the Mexican cell systems, hence no Mexican ring tone to the caller. Always gets a US type ring when in the Verizon signal area which does include most of the zona. Tell me about it, that's why now I just leave my car and cell phone on the UETA parking lot .Outside in the alley sometimes I get US reception and does not have the strange ring, but most of the time its roaming and someone calling from the US would hear a different ring. I always get at least 2 bars of my Verizon signal in the Zona from the US. Have never gone to roam until I have been down as far as the Grand. See the tall hotel down on Aqua Caliente? That's the Grand, and I even get a signal there, it's usually if I go south of there I lose the US signal. No one who has ever called me in the zona has ever knew I was there since I never roamed onto a Mexican signal. I have always gotten great Verizon coverage in TJ. Even at the orphanage, Plaza Rio, always a US signal. Now when I had Sprint years ago it seemed I went on roam the min I crossed. So I've been yanked into secondary and fucked with on both sides of the line more in the past month than the entire past 20 years. Anyway, I'm on my way to dentist in TJ last Friday, driving carefully in the area close to Jai Ali, cop lights 'em up and I figure he must be wanting to pass me, wrong. Pulls my ass over and comes up with a smile and asks if I live in TJ, I say nope, then asks if I work in TJ, I say nope .... just going to the doctor. Tells me his English is poor, I tell him my Espanol is muy malo. So he tells me back on 2nd, no, 3rd street, that I turned the corner when people were walking across the street ....... like they don't almost mow down pedestrians in TJ and the USA. I tell him no one was walking across the street, he says yes some fat guy ..... and points to his big gut ..... I laugh and point to mine as bigger. Next I tell him he is wrong because I turned on red light when no one was in the street at all. So, he asks to see my driver's license ...... well, I can't find it. I'm sitting there digging through my stuff, and my around-the-neck safety pouch, without letting him see any cash there. I change to reading glasses and continue to look. He got so tired of my search that he finally says to just go to the doctor ....... we shake hands, thank each other, and off I go ....... without paying a fucking cent to this crook. Just dumb luck on Friday the 13th. I have done Hk Chicas for free before...(and i've only been in HK 7 times in my whole life) But with AB Chicas never. (I've been in AB the same amount of time) don't carry any thing except ID and enough cash to screw chica's . No ATM cards No gold. No credit cards No wallet, Don't dress nice. always pay with small bills I only take 1 key for car. and leave everything else at hotel. I agree on most items except on not carrying a credit card, you need 1 to get you out of any unexpected situation when cash is needed for whatever reason and you are out of funds. I reiterate, credit card not ATM card, you can get the cc charges removed or cancel the card if you "lose" it. I have discovered that your strategy of going into the zona during the days on Monday-Thurs is a good one. I have practiced this the last few times that I went over. I find that the chicas give you more time and it is relaxed except maybe for AB with HC chica. I like the less crowd and even the hotties give you attention. since I've rarely been during weekdays... I noticed that the hottest ones are not around for long or not too many of them like in the weekends... but then again they're so busy in the weekends. Oh no! They are ALL still there. Even though they are not out. Most are EASY to find..just ask! I know where many live and when I am down I just stop in or have one of my "guide friends" (the guys who speak English and set you up with shit) they will go get them for you then AFTER you get her you give him $5 for getting her for you. Its a very simple process. would you say a day time week day is safer from any bs harrassment/ setups from policia looking for morditas? i absolutely agree with that. now that you bring it up, i only see a few policia here and there in the zona and off Revo during the day. they mostly come out at night. but even then, the policia in the alley and Constitucion are there to make sure everything goes smoothly. i've never been hassled by any of them. the policia that have kind of an attitude are the ones who prowl on the bridge that runs across the river and further down at the sentry drop off. The best time I have found to go to TJ is Monday thru Thursaday, for several reasons. Best advice if walking over, take only the amount of cash you plan to spend and your passport or birth certificate and driver's license. Nothing more. Then you can have a great time. I usually go around 1 pm and stay ntil dusk (around 7 pm) so I have 6 hours of fun with the ladies and stay out of any potential trouble areas and just have fun! i do have a girl at hk that has a killer ass and legs her name is fernanda that is close to that
